Rochester NY 912 Project-We Surround Rochester Message Board › Archive 2/2009 thru 5/2011 › Where do we go from here?? And State Nullification.
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Posted at the Tenth Amendment Center. Exactly what we've been talking about... what's our next effective move, since it seems 'write your Congressman' is moot with these non-representing 'Representatives'.
And they also have this terrific post on how Nullification of the Federal Law is a real possibility for the Health Care Takeover if it goest through. They suggest state level work on these issues will be *much* more effective than Marches. Here's the article on What's Next?: Don't miss the one on Nullification HERE. by Rob Natelson The recent election results in Virginia and New Jersey – representing in part a strong repudiation of the threats to freedom over the past year – have energized many pro-liberty activists. It is imperative that we keep the pressure on. But we can be sure the other side will try to trick us into damaging statements in order to discredit us, or lure us into time-wasting strategies. So here are a few things to remember: * Let’s keep our eye on the ball. The ultimate goal of most in the Tenth Amendment movement is to restore constitutional limits to the federal government. Our Constitution – not any peripheral or personal causes – is what we are working for. * Swarm, swarm, swarm. The focus for the short-term has to be continue to “swarm” our elected representatives, get in their faces, and tell them over and over that more deficit spending or tax increases are simply unacceptable. So also is any major expansion of government control, particularly a takeover of heath care. * Restoring limits on the feds. The focus long-term has to be one or more constitutional amendments to put the federal government’s house back in order and protect future generations from the kinds of assaults on our freedom we have faced over the last year. When a system breaks down, sometimes you have to patch up to set it right — just as our fathers and grandfathers adopted the 22nd Amendment to re-establish the two-term presidential tradition that Franklin Roosevelt had disregarded. That’s our situation now. * 2010 elections. The focus medium-term is now the 2010 elections – not just for Congress, but particularly on the state level. This is because constitutional amendments to curb Congress’s powers are probably not going to come from Congress. The states will have to use the Constitution’s state-proposal procedure. * Don’t let the bad guys marginalize you. Talk of actions such as secession suggest that we are the ones willing to destroy our constitutional system – when in fact the opposition has that dubious distinction. * Work smart. The other side has a lot of people who work full-time in politics or who work for the government, which sometimes amounts to nearly the same thing. That’s in addition to Soros money. So we have to carefully husband our resources – devote your time and energy only to things that make sense in view of our goals. * Don’t waste your time on stupid or impossible causes. Here are a few causes that are certain time-wasters: (1) impeaching Obama (impossible while the Dems control Congress, even assuming there are grounds to do so), (2) recalling U.S. Senators or Congressmen before their terms are up (there is no recall procedure authorized by the Constitution or federal law), and (3) secession movements (which, besides conceding the Constitution to the other side, overlooks the fact that they have the nuclear weapons). * Again, keep your eyes on the ball – restore the Constitution. That means letters to the editor, candidate identification, working in the political party of your choice, fundraising, keeping in touch with others in the Tenth Amendment movement, and educating yourself by visiting great websites like the Tenth Amendment Center. Rob Natelson is a constitutional law professor at the University of Montana, and runner-up in the 2000 “open primary” for Governor of Montana. His opinions are his own, and should not be attributed to any other person or institution. Edited by Ken H on Nov 17, 2009 10:59 AM |
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Here is where we need to go:
http://www.wagthedog2... Click on the link, and watch "The Strangest Political Secret." Then, if you agree with Jim Condit, join his group: http://www.meetup.com... Learn how to become a precinct committeeman, then go and do it! |
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In answer to Where do we go from here??
If you have not already done so, please visit the Files section and play the speach from Mrs. Yvonne Donnelly, Glens Volunteer National 912 director. She indicates that Glenn is going to be making a major announcement soon and also talks about some very specific ideas on Where do we go from here. Link to Speach Thanks, Paul |
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Glenn said on both radio and TV that he'll be unveiling something this Saturday at 3pm at the Villages.
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Glenn said on both radio and TV that he'll be unveiling something this Saturday at 3pm at the Villages. At the Villages? REALLY??? Thanks for the info Wendy I missed the Radio show today. |
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Glenn said on both radio and TV that he'll be unveiling something this Saturday at 3pm at the Villages. Yep, the Villages. Rumor has it that it's Florida's friendliest home town. ![]() |
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Is anyone else having a problem getting the audio from Paul's link and also directly from our FILES folder of Yvonne Donnelly, Glens Volunteer National 912 director? Thanks.
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Nothing to do with the actual topic of this discussion but... does anybody else see the title, 'Where do we go from here...' and think Alan Parsons Project? This drives me crazy - a simple phrase reminds me of a song and the song gets stuck in my head all day. I couldn't get side-tracked again today so I dug out the disc and listened to the song. For anyone else so afflicted, here are the lyrics, which actually do apply to the topic...
Where do we go from here now that all of the children are grown up and how do we spend our lives if there`s no one to give us a hand I don't wanna live here no more I don't wanna stay ain't gonna spend the rest of my life quietly fading away games people play you take it or you leave it hard or right if I promise you the moon and the stars would you believe it? games people play in the middle of the night where do we go from here now that all of the children are grown up and how do we spend our lives if there's no one to give us a hand I don't wanna live here no more I don't wanna stay ain't gonna spend the rest of my life quietly fading away games people play you take it or you leave it the things that they say just don't make it right if I'm telling you the truth right now would you believe it? games people play in the middle of the night (guitar solo) Edited by Wendy T. on Nov 20, 2009 9:36 AM |
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Thank you for the information; I have no intention of quietly submitting to rogue politicians. I can't wait to check out the Tenth Amendment Center!
"We should never despair, our Situation before has been unpromising and has changed for the better, so I trust, it will again. If new difficulties arise, we must only put forth new Exertions and proportion our Efforts to the exigency of the times." — George Washington, letter to Philip Schuyler, 1777 Eileen Edited by Eileen on Nov 22, 2009 9:18 AM |
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Just as an FYI, the Precinct idea seems like it might have impact, to take over the parties from the inside... I'm certainly open to hearing more from everyone on that.
BUT, that web site was a bag of hurt. (the wag the dog one) He starts out by throwing out 'new world order' and then the second video is all about donating to their movement and how they have generous commisions if you want to get involved. Including joining his MLM: (You can also help the precinct strategy -- and help your family fight infections, viruses, swine flu or any other potential plague -- by investigating and purchasing MMS mineral breakthrough ($20 per year per family!) at www.NetworkAmericaStore.com -- seriously, this may be our only hope against a real or contrived plague or pandemic. We urge you to check it out for your family's sake.) Soooo, maybe just go to that meetup group but I'd be embarrassed if anyone thought we were associated with the kind of mixed messages he's saying on the main site. YMMV KenH |